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Question: Who should run this year's MotBB?  (Voting closed: February 09, 2010, 11:51:27 PM)
Martin Burley - 1 (20%)
Master Roshambollah - 4 (80%)
Total Voters: 5

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« on: February 02, 2010, 11:51:27 PM »

Poll runs for 7 days, and you can change your vote.
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« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2010, 02:57:42 AM »

Would either of you be competing while running this?
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« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2010, 10:45:20 AM »

If I'm organizing, I won't play.
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« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2010, 10:45:47 AM »

Also, if Martin is organizing, I won't play.
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« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2010, 04:46:10 AM »

If I'm organising, I won't play.

If I'm not organising, I will play.

If you want to win it this year, your best chance to do that is to vote for me to organise it, so that I'm knocked out of the running before I get to play a match. Again.

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« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2010, 09:52:36 AM »

I tried to, but lost the 1st Round of votes, even though I would of competed in my own (and proven there is no rule bending from the world series)
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« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2010, 01:05:39 PM »

proven there is no rule bending from the world series

Hardly.  If anything, one has to worry more about cheating by a MotBB official who is not competing.

The reasons for such "bending the rules" do not include payoffs, or even a vested interest in the winner, but can simply be for the sheer amusement of doing so.

The MotBB is quite a different animal from Roshambull, and in many ways much more accurately reflects the nature of real RPS.  Although Roshambull can accurately test a player's strategy in a vacuum, as it were, the MotBB also takes into account metagame aspects, such as one's relationship with the other players and the organizer, varying tournament organization methods and seeding, and intangible factors such as sunspot activity, electromagnetic interference, astrological import, telepathy, and waiting until custardchuk is going to work in the field for a week or two.

As a matter of fact, despite my best efforts to publicize the difference, there are still many people who seem to confuse fantasy online RPS with the real thing.  To be sure, there is nothing wrong with Roshambull; in addition to the aforementioned strategic and tactical testing (and the value offered to the sponsor via product placement,) Roshambull provides entertainment and a means of social interaction.  However, whatever it is, it ain't RPS.  It's like comparing real baseball (or cricket, if you're James Heyes, or maybe ice hockey, if you're Canadian, or 'roo punching, if you're Australian) with an online simulation.  They follow the same rules and the same scoring system, and even use the same strategy, but the ability to click a button at the right time does not translate into the ability to belt one out of the park (or hit a sticky wicket, score a hat trick, or punch a 'roo.)  This difference is even more apparent in a sport like RPS, where the margin of victory can be slight.
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« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2010, 04:24:42 PM »

agree with you Rosh, thus why I still want to run a official tournament myself. Just trying to prove my honesty really, which probably shows nothing on here...

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« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2010, 04:58:39 PM »

I think that your elimination in Round 1 is proof that we consider you honest, TGOTT.
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« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2010, 06:35:00 PM »

I applaud your efforts to run an official tournament, James.  By "official," I assume you mean real RPS, not an online simulation.  Where are you thinking about holding your tournament?
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« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2010, 06:51:46 PM »

Manchester, I believe. Burley and I are already providing professional advice.
And we have already claimed the free tickets and accommodation for the 2 guest Pros that we recommended he would need.
Nothing for you to see here .....
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« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2010, 07:01:18 PM »

You already have James convinced that Burley's a Pro?  This oughtta be good.
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« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2010, 07:54:00 PM »

Would be at Radcliffe Borough FC in Manchester. Possibilly on the pitch. and Martin,Clayton,Alan Giles(World Series 1 winner) and World eries 2 winner would get free entry if the event ever goes ahead. My only problem is trying to time it correct. I only have a 3 month window during 2011 to plan it for, not really visable to have it during the season. Not planned costs or anything yet due to problems away from RPS but come April hopefully will start to really push the event forward.

Main problems are :-
Application email is currently dead (as found out when trying to get the world series a recognized event)
Time
Knowledge of the sport (thus why Clayton and Martin are involved)
Lack of driving License
Age (19)

I promise that this Tournament will be running by 2015. if a 1 off or a annual qualifier for a more open UK Championship

and Clayton/Martin, I know a good hotel that allow visitors at 4am in the area. Finding this out New years eve is a godsend
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« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2010, 07:37:58 AM »

a touch of confusion creeping in here for me!

"one has to worry more about cheating by a MotBB official who is not competing."

any hint of Cheating in any competition or game. (unless 'cheating' is a recognised skilled part of that game.) would bring the game into disrepute.
Cheating to make for a better entertainment experience or improve show ratings is also unacceptable.
(as evidenced in recient phone in competitions in uk which resulted in massive fines for companies)
(& also as in case of blue peter show, disgrace for producers & presenters)

The reasons for such "bending the rules" do not include payoffs, or even a vested interest in the winner, but can simply be for the sheer amusement of doing so."

In my area 'Bending' = Bent = crooked = cheating someone of something

I think the reference is to use 'appropriate application' of rules to enhance amusement as aposed to Bending them?

recognising i have not played in Real Proper Sighted (AKA real flesh faced) RPS tourney's or street hustling.


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« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2010, 01:52:49 PM »

continued from above post.

I take it Rosh is confirming there will be no cheating in MotBB even though it will seek to emulate real RPS as far as is possible on line.

then following this experience James will run a real RPS tournament in Manchester UK?

Is that about right?
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